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What follows is an extremely disturbing serious of posts about 3ABN's laxity in hiring a number of sex offenders without alerting employees of that fact. What makes the posts particularly disturbing are the comments of avid Danny Shelton apologist Bystander (see comments about him at the top of "Linda, You Are Crazy Like a Fox!").

It is strange that Bystander has access to the type of information no one else seems to be able to get a hold of. Yet his conclusions are ... well ... read them for yourself.

Two More Sex Offenders Identified

husbandoftheyear is a current employee of 3ABN who uses a pseudonym in order to escape retribution.

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husbandoftheyear Jan 19 2007, 09:11 PM

I wasn't trying to be coy, I just didn't think this was a secret.

Since I have children, I make it a point to regularly check the national list of sex offenders. It is a very good habit for parents to get into and would suggest that everyone do this. (Not to say that there isn't forgiveness and a change of heart, but preparation is always a plus. And I wouldn't take any chances!)

There are two people that I know of that are on that list that have been or are currently working at 3ABN. You may check the facts out for yourself at Just type in their names or town and click for a picture.

One is Herb Grimm. He is no longer at 3ABN that I know of. The other is Bill (William) Cochran who is currently working in the Production department and on the Production Truck. I do not know the specifics in either of their cases.

For the bleeding hearts out there, there is no mistake here since their pictures are also on the site. It is as simple as that.

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Corroborating Testimony

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JustTana Jan 20 2007, 04:47 PM

Dear HOTY:

I know for sure that you are telling the truth as I have wondered for some time about Herb Grimm. You have answered my questions because while I knew that he had moved down to that area, I was not certain that he had ever worked at 3ABN.

So folks, YOU CAN TRUST WHAT HOTY SAYS because Herb's first wife was a classmate of mine many years ago as was his twin brother's wife. Herb's sister-in-law told me not long before he and his second wife, Sue, moved down to Thompsonville that Herb had molested her son, his nephew, when he was over at Herb's house playing with his cousin. How many times this happened before she found out about it I don't know.

Thanks for the honest reporting, HOTY.


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Was Anyone Told?

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
PeacefullyBewildered Jan 27 2007, 10:59 AM

HOTY, when you first brought up the fact that Herb Grimm and Bill Cochran were registered sex offenders who work/worked at 3abn I neglected to ask what I think are some important questions:

Was it common knowledge that these two men were registered sex offenders?

Did the producers of the children's programming know they were registered sex offenders?

Were all parents advised that both were registered sex offenders so they could have this important information in order to make proper decisions about having their children around them?

Or, were they allowed around children without any accountability while those in charge crossed their fingers, held their breath and hoped nothing bad would happen?

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Did 3ABN Know? Were Any Employees Told?

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
husbandoftheyear Jan 27 2007, 05:03 PM

Well, I can't say what people knew, obviously. Dan Shelton and Brenda Walsh are the "Executive Producer" and "Producer" of Kids Time, respectively.

The offenders could have lied on their application about being convicted of a felony, I don't know. I don't know if background checks are done on anyone. It seems to me that Bill Cochrans was brought into 3ABN by a Shelton relative, but please don't quote me on that. Perhaps someone has more info.

To my knowledge, the parents, children, production staff were not told. So, the answer to the last question would be "yes."

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Danny Apologist Bystander Tells All

  • "3ABN knew."
  • "Cochran's situation was consenting."
  • "Not a child."
  • "Parents pressed charges."
  • "Not a child molester in any sense of the word."

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
Bystander Jan 27 2007, 05:32 PM

When I saw that you posted this sometime ago, I looked into it. Here is what I found out.

Herb Grimm was never an "employee" he was a construction subcontractor. Hardly a position to be around children. I am not clear on this but I believe that when he moved to southern Illinois with his family that he was not a convicted molester. Those charges were brought (if I understood correctly) by his wife during seperation and divorce and obviously was convicted of whatever charges were brought against him.

The story on Bill C only takes a few phone calls to the right officials. 10 or 12 years ago in a town in Southern Illinois Bill was a teacher in upper high school grades or lower college grades (wasn't clear on that) He made the huge mistake of having an affair with a female student. (Not a child or even a young student). Her parents found out and pressed charges.

It was not a Shelton (even though they are getting blamed for everything) that brought him to 3 Angels but another worker that was friends with Bill. The worker explained the whole situation to management and said that incident was in the past, Bill had paid for it, was sorry for it and had turned his life around and just wanted a chance. Administration then called the sheriff off the town that he was convicted in and got a glowing report. Said it was a bad decision but the situation had been consenting that he was not a (child molester) in any sense of the word and he (the sheriff) would appreciate 3ANGELS giving him a chance. Now to me, when the sheriff that handled the case says that, that says it all. On the sheriffs recommendation and that of the 3ABN employee Bill was indeed given a second chance. By all accounts, he has made a dependable, respectful and hard working employee. For those of you that have seen his picture on the Offenders website, you can see he is not a spring chicken. I, therefore, commend 3ABN for giving him a chance. That should be what all ministries are about.

For those who do not believe this, get the info off of the offenders website and make your own phonecalls to verify this.

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Aggravated Criminal Sex Abuse ... Under the Age of 18

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
PeacefullyBewildered Jan 27 2007, 06:03 PM

The web site says his crimes were aggravated criminal sex abuse/victim 13 - 18 and that the victim was under the age of 18. While this young woman may have felt that the situation was consenting, a young person under the age of 18 does not have mature judgement and can be easily swayed by a person in a position of trust like a teacher or a pastor. I can say with near certainty that, as this young lady matures, she will have a much different view of the situation and will feel betrayed by a person she trusted.

I am not saying that he should not be given a chance, far from that, but those he is working around need to be made aware of his past so that they can help him with his accountability.


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Bystander: "I Might Disagree About Informing the People That Work Around Him"

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
Bystander Jan 27 2007, 05:32 PM


I agree with your opinion of what the girl thought later. It has been 10 or 12 years and I am sure she already does. I might disagree about informing the people that work around him for this reason.. it was quite some time ago, I believe he went through counseling as part of his rehabilitation and most of all because this was a one time incident and has never happened again. Just a matter of opinion I guess. But the release of this info from hoty was to imply that 3abn is lax in who they hire while I wholeheartedly agree It was good of them to give him a chance.

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Aggravated Isn't Consenting

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
husbandoftheyear Jan 27 2007, 07:57 PM

Okay, now you really cannot believe this stuff, right? Oh my, well what can I say?

Let's start with, yes I do believe that ministries and people should accept that people can be delivered from their sins. Absolutely. However, I do not think it wise to hire a known sex offender for a position in the Production Department where there are children. That seems like common sense.

I said at the beginning of this that I did not know the circumstances in Bill's case, but I can say that you don't get slapped with "aggravated" anything unless it was either unwanted or forced. I don't believe it was a romantic liaison gone bad.

Since you know the story, I have some questions...

  1. Exactly how many convictions would have made the light bulb to turn on?
  2. As you admit that 3ABN knew Bill was a sex offender, where was the memo to the staff and parents who brought there children into the station telling them of this?
  3. Wasn't Bill brought into 3ABN by J. Yeager, Dan's son-in-law? Doesn't that make him a Shelton family member (you know, the "ones being blamed for everything?")
  4. What is the difference in being an "employee" who is at the station everyday around children and a "contract worker" at the station everyday around children?
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Parents Pressed Charges? Then Must Have Been a Child

3abn Jan. 2007 Letter
husbandoftheyear Jan 27 2007, 09:50 PM

Bystander, you said that this girl that Bill had the "affair" with wasn't "a child or even a young student. Her parents found out and pressed charges."

In order for them to do this, wouldn't the girl have had to be under 18, a minor, a child, you know -- young? Just checking...

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Under 17?

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PeacefullyBewildered Jan 28 2007, 10:32 PM

Cindy, you have 2 boys right? How old? After hearing the testimonies of the Clem brothers and Brad Dunning, if you were invited to leave your boys with Tommy Shelton for several hours would you? If not, why not?

Also, if the age of consent is 17 in Illinois, then the young woman who had what Bystander called a consenting affair with William Cochran must have been younger than 17 to have gotten him convicted of Aggravated Criminal Sex Assault Victim 13 - 18. Correct?

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