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Danny Shelton's apologists were quick to deny that the proposed merger of 3ABN and Amazing Facts means any real change of anything: Amazing Facts is not taking over 3ABN, Danny Shelton is not resigning, and he will continue to be in charge of day-to-day operations.

In light of the fact that one apologist makes the claim that the organization resulting from the merger will likely be called 3ABN, one wonders if the reality is that 3ABN is buying out Amazing Facts rather than vice versa.

And the claims of one apologist that Doug Batchelor "knows" that the allegations against alleged adulterer Danny Shelton and alleged pedophile Tommy Shelton are false is also of interest, as well as another apologist's contention that one of the results of the merger will be to show widespread support of Danny Shelton.

We must ask, what is the point and purpose of a merger if nothing really changes except possibly there being a single board instead of two boards, the members of which may not be getting paid anyway? What tangible benefits will either Amazing Facts or 3ABN glean from such a merger that they either don't or can't already have without a merger?

"Amazing Facts Is Not Taking Over 3ABN"

#93 April 19, 2007, 08:02 AM

Rosie55
Regular Member

... This did not happen suddenly and AF is NOT taking over 3abn.

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MyCF Link: Rosie55.christianforums.com (68 views)

#94 April 19, 2007, 11:10 AM

tomatoe
Regular Member

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... Amazing Facts IS NOT TAKING OVER 3ABN. ...

MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

"Danny Shelton Will Not Be Resigning"

#97 April 19, 2007, 12:05 PM

tomatoe
Regular Member

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Yes, we have verifiable information. Danny Shelton will not be resigning and continue his administrative duties as usual. Doug Batchelor will be president/director of the merger but will not be involved in day to day operations.

MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

#102 April 19, 2007, 12:11 PM

tomatoe
Regular Member

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... DANNY SHELTON IS NOT RESIGNING AND WILL CONTINUE HIS ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES AT 3ABN. DOUG WILL BE PRESIDENT/DIRECTOR OF THE MERGER BUT WILL NOT BE INVOLVED IN DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS!

This is not hard to understand.

MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

#103 April 19, 2007, 12:23 PM

PeacefulSDA
Regular Member

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Who will be in charge of day-to-day operations?

MyCF Link: PeacefulSDA.christianforums.com (34 views)

#104 April 19, 2007, 12:44 PM

Rosie55
Regular Member

Peaceful, the same person who has always been running the day to day operations in the last 20 years!

Danny Shelton

MyCF Link: Rosie55.christianforums.com (68 views)

Doug Batchelor "Knows the Allegations Are Not True"

Avid apologist "tomatoe" claims that Doug Batchelor is privy to the top secret, confidential information and evidence that totally exonerates alleged adulterer Danny Shelton and alleged pedophile Tommy Shelton. By making this claim, Danny's side implicates Elder Batchelor in the ongoing scandal and cover up.

We personally believe at this point that such an implication is wrong on tomatoe's part. We do not believe that Doug Batchelor is privy to such top secret and probably non-existent information and evidence which has not yet been brought forward, even though Linda requested that the evidence against her be brought forward way back on February 14, 2007. And we do not have any indication that Elder Batchelor is knowingly involved in any sort of cover up.

But tomatoe's assertion does necessitate a prompt investigation of these matters by Amazing Facts and Doug Batchelor, and some sort of public statement concerning that investigation.

#100 April 19, 2007, 12:09 PM

tomatoe
Regular Member

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... Would he merge with 3abn if the allegations against 3abn were true? Of course not. He knows they aren't and have never been true and has proven it by wanting this merger.

MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

#123 April 19, 2007, 11:27 PM

tomatoe
Regular Member

Originally Posted by icedragon101

do you think this is danny's way of protecting himself. or is it really of the Lord as they are saying. or maybe it is the Lords way of protecting the 3Abn and danny may disappear for a while.

Did you not watch the Live? DANNY SHELTON WILL REMAIN, AS IS, AT 3ABN. THERE ARE NO TAKE OVERS, TURN OVERS, OR ROLL OVERS. DOUG WILL REMAIN IN CALIFORNIA, DANNY WILL REMAIN IN SOUTHERN IL. THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER TO EVANGELIZE THE WORLD. THE END. THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS. DOUG FELT THIS WAS THE TIME TO TAKE AMAZING FACTS WHERE HE WANTS IT TO GO. HE DID NOT LET THE INTERNET GOSSIP BOTHER HIM IN THE LEAST. WHY? BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE ALLEGATIONS ARE NOT TRUE. HE HAS HAD MUCH CLOSER ASSOCIATION WITH 3ABN THAN MOST PEOPLE DISCUSSING THIS ON THE INTERNET WHICH OBVIOUSLY MEANS HE KNOWS A LOT MORE INSIDE INFORMATION. HE FEELS PRIVILEGED TO JOIN WITH 3ABN AS MUCH AS 3ABN FEELS PRIVILEGED TO HAVE AMAZING FACTS ON BOARD.

MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

Danny Shelton "Retains the Title of CEO"

If Doug Batchelor ends up as "president" and Danny Shelton ends up as "CEO," as tomatoe suggests, who will answer to whom?

#133 April 20, 2007, 01:03 AM

tomatoe
Regular Member

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... What he said was that Mollie has pretty much ran day to day operations (as she should as general manager) and that would continue. ... The name of president had been discussed knowing that titles won't make a whole lot of difference in the scope of things but officially, I don't think there can be 2 presidents (I could be wrong on that) Anyway, the titles may be a little different Doug president/director and Danny ceo/founder but the roles remain the same at both AF and 3ABN. The titles are there because there is a need for them. That's it. Mollie will not do any more than she has been doing and Danny will not to any less than he has been doing. ...

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... AF is not taking over 3abn. DS did not hand 3abn's presidency over to Doug, he handed the Title of presidency to him. DS is not stepping back or down and will continue to be CEO. Maybe to make it simpler, he has always been President and CEO of 3angels, Now he shares the titles with doug by giving him the title of Pres while he retains the title of CEO.

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MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

Danny Shelton Will Still Be Running 3ABN

#139 April 20, 2007, 01:42 AM

tomatoe
Regular Member

Originally Posted by Pinkpanther007

Thats interesting. I distinctly heard Danny hand over the presidency to Doug. Danny did not say that he would be giving him the title without any position, you are the one who said that. It has been speculated that Danny would be perpetrating something fraudulent like that for the purpose of making people think that he was giving something that he was not really giving. If you are correct that Danny's hand over of the presidency was fake, what else that we heard tonight was just sleight of hand?

Of course he will have his position and will go on spearheading his team just the way DS will go on spearheading his. Who knows, by the time all of the details are ironed out, titles may change again. This is not something that either ministry has jumped into lightly or quickly. The details are mind boggling and will take plenty of time but, when the ink is dry Mollie will still continue her job as GM, DS was still continue his as leader of 3abn and Doug will continue his vision with Amazing Facts. All will work together to make the impossible, possible.

MyCF Link: tomatoe.christianforums.com (72 views)

Merger "Will likely Be Known As 3ABN"

Also interesting is how Rosie55 claims that one of the expected consequences of the merger process is to show "widespread support of ... Danny."

#93 April 19, 2007, 08:02 AM

Rosie55
Regular Member

This endeavor will not be a "unified but separate" situation. The two ministries will join together as one being jointly identified by both names as long as necessary, but eventually will likely be known as 3ABN. 3ABN has much greater world wide recognition and this makes the most sense.

Organizational structure will undergo some tweaking with both Doug and Danny being intricately involved in the new ministry. The only other area of organizational change will be a melding of the two boards, the particulars to be decided in the future. ...

The new entity is expected to gain the full support of the organized church and associations such as ASI indicating that there is widespread support of Doug, Danny, and both ministries.

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MyCF Link: Rosie55.christianforums.com (68 views)

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